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Telnet issues :: RFC0435








Network Working Group                                          B. Cosell
Request for Comment: 435                                         BBN-NET
NIC: 13675                                                     D. Walden
Category: TELNET, Protocols, Echoing                             BBN-NET
References: 318, 357                                      5 January 1973


                             TELNET Issues

   This RFC discusses a number of TELNET related issues which have been
   bothering us [1].  The basic, central issue we started from was that
   of echoing.  We worked downward from our difficulties to discover the
   basic principles at the root of our unhappiness, and from there
   worked back upwards to design a scheme which we believe to be better.
   In this note we will discuss both the alternate scheme and its
   underlying principles.

   As something of a non sequitur, before discussing echoing we feel it
   expedient to dismiss one possible stumbling block, outright.  HIDE
   YOUR INPUT may or may not be a good idea, this question not
   concerning us at the moment.  Whatever the case, the issue of hiding
   input is certainly separable from that of echoing.  We, therefore,
   strongly recommend that a STOP HIDING YOUR INPUT command be
   sanctioned to replace the multiplexing of this function on the NO
   ECHO command.  Once this has been done, the pair of commands HIDE
   YOUR INPUT and STOP HIDING YOUR INPUT can be kept or discarded
   together, and we can discuss the issue of echoing independently of
   them.

Echoing

   The basic observation that we made regarding echoing was that servers
   seem to be optimized to best handle terminals which either do their
   own echoing or do not, but not both.  Therefore, the present TELNET
   echoing conventions, which prohibit the server from initiating a
   change in echo mode, seemed overly confining.  The servers are
   burdened with users who are in the 'wrong' mode, in which they might
   not otherwise have to be, and users, both human and machine, are
   burdened with remembering the proper echoing mode, and explicitly
   setting it up, for all the different servers.  It is our
   understanding that this prohibition was imposed on the servers to
   prevent loops from developing because of races which can arise when
   the server and user both try to set up an echo mode simultaneously.
   We will describe a method wherein both parties can initiate a change
   of echo mode and show that the method does not loop.






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   This alternate specification relies on three primary assumptions.
   First as above, the server, as well as the user, should be able to
   suggest the echo mode.  Second, all terminals must be able to provide
   their own echoes, either internally or by means of the local Host.
   Third, all servers must be able to operate in a mode which assumes
   that a remote terminal is providing its own echoes.  Both of these
   last two result from the quest for a universal, minimal basis upon
   which to build.  It is fairly easy for a Host which normally supplies
   echoes to disable the appropriate code, but it will difficult for a
   Host which does not do echoing to integrate such routines into its
   system similarly, it is easier for a local Host to supply echoes to a
   terminal which cannot provides its own, but it borders on the
   impossible to undo echoing in a terminal which has automatic echoing
   built into it.

   Our proposed specification would use the present ECHO and NO ECHO
   commands as follows: ECHO, when sent by the server to the user, would
   mean 'I'll echo to you' ECHO, when sent by the user to the server,
   would mean 'You echo to me'.  NO ECHO, when sent by the server to the
   user, would mean 'I'll not echo to you'; NO ECHO, when sent by the
   user to the server, would mean 'Don't you echo to me'.  These are, of
   course, nearly the same meanings that the commands currently have,
   although most current implementations seem to invert the server-to-
   user meanings.

   In our specification, whenever a connection is opened both server and
   user assume that the user is echoing locally.  If the user would, in
   fact, prefer the server to echo, the user could send off an ECHO
   command.  Similarly, if the server prefers to do the echoing (for
   instance, because the server system is optimized for very interactive
   echoing), the server could send off an ECHO command.  Neither is
   required to do anything, it is only a matter of preference.  Upon
   receipt of either command by either party, if that is an admissible
   mode of operation the recipient should begin operating in that mode,
   and if such operation reflects a change in mode, it should respond
   with the same command to confirm that (and when) the changeover took
   place.  If the received command request an inadmissible mode of
   operation, then the command's inverse should be sent as a refusal
   (this must be NO ECHO, since neither party can refuse a change into
   NO ECHO).  To state these rules more formally:

      1) Both server and user assume that a connection is initially in
         NO ECHO mode.

      2) Neither party can refuse a request to change into NO ECHO mode.

      3) Either party may send an unsolicited command only to request a
         change in mode.



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      4) A party only changes its echo mode when it receives an
         admissible request.

      5) When a command is received, the party replies with its echo
         mode, unless it did not have to change mode to honor the
         request.

   Several properties of this scheme are worthy of note:

      1) NO ECHO is retained as the nominal connection mode.  A
         connection will work in ECHO mode only when both parties agree
         to operate that way.

      2) The procedure cannot loop.  Regardless of which party (or both)
         initiates a change, or in what time order, there are at most
         three commands sent between the parties [2].

      3) Servers are free to specify their preferred mode of operation.
         Thus, human, or machine, users do not have to learn the proper
         mode for each server.

Three Principles

   Let us mention the general principles we alluded to at the beginning
   of this note.  The principles are: default implementation, negotiated
   options and symmetry.  The principle of default implementation merely
   states that for all options, defaults are declare which must be
   implemented.  It is this principle which leads us to seek out the
   'minimum' for each option (to keep the required burden on everybody
   as small as possible), and prevents loops in protocol.  The principle
   of negotiated options merely states that options must be agreed upon
   by all (both) parties concerned.  It is this principle which dictated
   the positive/negative acknowledgement scheme.  The principle of
   symmetry merely states that neither party should have to 'know'
   whether it is the server or the user.  Our scheme, as described thus
   far, is not totally symmetrical we will consider this matter in a
   later section.

   The ECHOING scheme we have described, together with the principles
   stated above, form the heart of our comments on the TELNET protocol.
   The remainder of this note consists of further ways in which the
   protocol can be expanded on the whole, these suggestions are all
   really only applications and development of the principles we have
   already put forward.  However, the fecundity of these expansions, and
   the 'good feel' they have, make us yet more convinced of the '
   rightness' of our original proposals.





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   Thus far, we have made a simple, concrete suggestion that we believe
   should be immediately sanctioned.  Looking beyond that proposal,
   however, has suggestion a large number of further, more ambitious
   changes.  The remainder of this RFC describes ideas which we don't
   feel have the immediacy of the proposal above, but should,
   nonetheless, be kept in mind if the network community decides to
   embark on revamping the protocol.

Synchronization

   One complaint we have heard about the present convention for
   establishing an echoing mode is about the lack of a provision to
   synchronize a change of echoing mode with the user-to-server data
   stream our scheme, too, is guilty on this count.  John Davidson of
   the University of Hawaii has documented, in RFC 357, a more elaborate
   echoing scheme which doesn't have this problem.  We, however, feel
   that it is possible to eliminate most of the trouble involved with
   normal changing of echo mode at a more modest cost than that required
   by the highly interactive scheme described by Davidson.  We can do
   this by borrowing a small piece of that scheme.  The rule we would
   incorporate is that whenever a party initiates a request for a change
   in echo mode, it then buffers, without transmitting or processing,
   all data in the user-to-server data stream until it receives an
   acknowledgement, positive or negative, at which time it deals with
   the buffered data in the newly negotiated mode.  Since with both our
   proposed and the current schemes such a request is guaranteed to be
   acknowledgement, the buffering time is bounded.

   An important aspect of this technique of eliminating the
   synchronization problem is that it need not ever become part of the
   official protocol.  Since its operation is entirely internal to the
   server or user, each may independently weigh the value of elegance
   against the cost of the required code and buffer space.

Other options

   Abhay Bushan has suggested to us that whether the user and server
   operate line-at-a-time or character-at-a-time mode (see RFC 318)
   should also be a negotiated option.  Further, he suggested that
   whether the terminal follows the TELNET end-of-line convention or not
   should also be negotiated.  Thus, when a connection is opened, in
   addition to being set to NO ECHO mode, the terminal would also be set
   to LINE-AT-A-TIME and EOL modes.  We could augment the command space
   with the new commands LINE, NO LINE (=CHARACTER), EOL and NO EOL
   (=separate CR and LF).






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   Once started in this direction, we found several further
   applications.  HIDE YOUR INPUT could be made an option, as could
   Davidson's echoing scheme, and even the character set to be used!
   Consider that an APL subsystem might well want to suggest to its user
   that EBCDIC be used for the connection.

   In mentionaing that the character set could be negotiated, it was
   implicit that 7-bit USASCII was the default.  The possibility of
   having the default be straight binary suggests itself.  If we
   augmented the protocol with a QUOTE character, the byte after which
   were to be always interpreted as data, then codes 128-255 could be
   retained as the 'TELNET command space' independently of the data mode
   in use by merely prefixing all data bytes in this region with a
   QUOTE.  If BINARY were a permissible data mode, then it is easy to
   visualize many higher level protocols, e.g., perhaps, File Transfer
   and Graphics, being built on top of, and into, the TELNET protocol.
   What we would have accomplished is to promote TELNET from being a
   constrained, terminal-oriented protocol to its being a flexible,
   general protocol for any type of byte oriented communication.  With
   such a backbone, many of the higher level protocols could be designed
   and implemented more quickly and less painfully -- conditions which
   would undoubtedly hasten their universal acceptance and availability
   [3].

   Looking toward a better world of the future, we have come up with a
   more compact and flexible command scheme.  We'll describe it after
   the next section.

Symmetry

   Some of the TENEX group (in particular, Thomas, Burchfiel and
   Tomlinson) have pointed out to us that although we have made the
   rules for the protocol symmetrical, we have not made the meanings of
   the commands symmetrical.  For example, the interpretations of the
   ECHO command -- 'I'll echo to you' and 'You echo to me' -- implicitly
   assume that both the server and user know who is which.  This is a
   problem not only for server-server connections where it is not clear
   which is the user, but also for user-user connections, e.g., in
   linking Teletypes together, where it is not clear which is the
   server.

   Responding to this, we came to understand that there are only five
   reasonable modes of operation for the echoing on a connection pair
   [4]:







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                         <------------------<
   A          Process 1                        Process 2
                         >------------------>
                         neither end echoes


                         <------------------<
   B          Process 1  <--+                  Process 2
                            ^
                         >--^--------------->
                        one end echoes for itself


                         <------------------<
   C          Process 1  <--------------+     Process 2
                                        ^
                         >--------------^--->
                        one end echoes for the other


                         <--------------V---<
   D          Process 1  <--+           V       Process 2
                            ^           +--->
                         >--^--------------->
                        both ends echo for themselves


                         <-----V------------<
   E          Process 1  <--+  V               Process 2
                            ^  +------------>
                         >--^--------------->
                        one end echoes for both ends

   The TENEX group suggested to us that four commands are sufficient to
   deal with completely symmetric echoing.  We have actually already
   mentioned the four commands -- the two possible meanings for each of
   ECHO and NO ECHO.  Explicitly, the commands would be I'LL ECHO TO
   YOU, YOU ECHO TO ME, DON'T ECHO TO ME and I'LL NOT ECHO TO YOU.
   Echoing is now the negotiation of two options, and the initial,
   default modes are DON'T ECHO TO ME and I'LL NOT ECHO TO YOU.

   In the case where the server or user knows which he is, the
   modification to the scheme is minimal since the commands never had
   ambiguous meanings in these cases.  When an 'end' truly doesn't know,
   then things are a little more complicated -- for example, consider
   both ends in I'LL ECHO TO YOU mode, but even then the problems are
   not insurmountable.




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   Once the principle of symmetry is adopted, it is no longer possible
   to use a function in two different ways.  On pages 5 and 6 of RFC
   318, Postel gives a description of INS and SYNC which indicates that
   they are used to simulate a 'break' user-to-server, but flush the
   output buffers server-to-user.  Since we do believe in symmetry, we
   suggest that the INS/DATA-MARK be treated the same in both directions
   and that a new CLEAR YOUR BUFFER option be added.

Command Format

   Extending full symmetry through the other options we have suggested,
   we can now describes the compacted command format referred to
   earlier.

   Rather than having four commands for each option (I WILL, I WON'T,
   YOU DO, YOU DON'T), there would be four 'prefixes' -- WILL, WON'T,
   DO, DON'T -- which would be used before the single command devoted to
   each option, WON'T and DON'T being the default modes.  To give an
   example, assume the codes for WILL and WON'T are 140 and 141, and the
   codes for ECHO REMOTE and HIDE INPUT are 132 and 133.  Then several
   of the possible command combinations would be:

                   140 133 -- DO HIDE INPUT
                   140 132 -- DO ECHO REMOTE
                   141 132 -- WON'T ECHO REMOTE
                   141 133 -- WON'T HIDE INPUT

   These are some of the commands that we believe should exist:

   I WILL (140)
   I WILL NOT (141)
   YOU DO (142)
   YOU DO NOT (143)
   QUOTE (144)
   SYNC (163)
   SYNC REPLY (164)

   ECHO REMOTE (132)
   SEND A CHARACTER-AT-A-TIME (146)
   SEND INDEPENDENT CR and LF (147)
   SEND IN EBCDIC (162)
   HIDE INPUT (133)
   USE DAVIDSON'S ECHOING STRATEGY (145)

   An important virtue of this command structure, and of our entire
   viewpoint, is that Hosts need no longer even be aware of what all the
   options are.  If we call the mode of operation in which every
   alternative is in its default state the 'NVT', then a site, of



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   course, must handle an NVT, but beyond that if it merely responds no
   to any command it does not understand, then it can totally ignore
   options it chooses not to implement.  Thus, options would truly be
   optional (for a change), not only to the user who may choose not to
   invoke them, but also to the systems builders who may now choose not
   to offer them!

   We hereby volunteer to rigorously specify a version of TELNET which
   embodies the principles we have described and to do so at any level
   of complexity deemed sufficient by the network community.









































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Appendix: A Sample Implementation

   The basis scheme we described represents most of what we have been
   thinking about the further extensions are just that, extensions.  We
   fear, however, that some who are spiritually in league with us might
   be frightened off by the magnitude of all the changes we suggest.  To
   combat this, we here provide an example of how simply and straight-
   forwardly the basis scheme could be implemented for the TIP [5].

   For each user terminal the TIP would keep three state bits: whether
   the terminal echoes for itself (NO ECHO always) or not (ECHO mode
   possible), whether the (human) user prefers to operate in ECHO or NO
   ECHO mode, and whether the connection to this terminal is in ECHO or
   NO ECHO mode.  We call these three bits P(hysical), D(esired) and
   A(ctual).

   When a terminal dials up the TIP, the P-bit is set appropriately, the
   D-bit is set equal to it, and the A-bit is set to NO ECHO.  The P-
   and A-bits may be manually reset by direct commands if the user so
   desires for instance, a user in Hawaii on a 'full-duplex' terminal
   might know that whatever the preference of a mainland server, because
   of satellite delay his terminal had better operate in NO ECHO mode --
   he would direct the TIP to change his D-bit from ECHO to NO ECHO.

   When a connection is opened from the TIP terminal to a server, the
   TIP would send the server an ECHO command if the MIN (with NO ECHO
   less than ECHO) of the P- and D-bits is different from the A-bit.  If
   a NO ECHO or ECHO arrives from the server, the TIP will set the A-bit
   to the MIN of the received request, the P-bit and D-bit.  If this
   changes the state of the A-bit, it will send off the appropriate
   acknowledgement if it does not, then the TIP will send off the
   appropriate refusal if not changing meant that it had to deny the
   request (i.e., the MIN of the P- and D- bits was less than the
   received A- request).  If while a connection is open, the TIP
   terminal user changes either the P- or D-bit, the TIP will repeat the
   above tests and send off an ECHO or NO ECHO, if necessary.  When the
   connection is closed, the TIP would reset the A-bit to NO ECHO.

   While the TIP's implementation would not involve ECHO or NO ECHO
   commands being sent to the server except when the connection is
   opened or the user explicitly changes his echoing mode, we would
   suppose that bigger Hosts might send these commands quite frequently.
   For instance, if a JOSS subsystem were running, the server might put
   the user in NO ECHO mode, but while DDT was running, the server might
   put the user in ECHO mode.






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   [1] We have assumed that TELNET is defined as suggested by Jon Postel
   in RFC 318.

   [2] Notice that a faulty implementation could achieve the effect of a
   loop by repeatedly sending a command which has previously been
   refused.  We consider this a property of the implementation, not of
   the scheme in general, a command which has be rejected should not be
   repeated until something changes -- for instance, not until after a
   different program has been started up.

   [3] Will Crowther, with an eye towards building higher protocols upon
   TELNET, has suggested that a SYNC command (not to be confused with
   the existing SYNCH), and a SYNC REPLY be added to TELNET.  For
   example, a server might want to wait until the output buffer of a
   user's terminal were empty before doing something like closing the
   connection or passing the connection to another server.  Although we
   see no current use for the command pair, they seem to be a handy
   enough building block that we recommend that they be included.

   [4] It is perhaps appropriate to mention that most of the connections
   in the network are TELNET connections, which are full duplex.
   Wouldn't it be reasonable to make all Host/Host protocol connections
   full duplex, rather than simplex? If, for some reason, one truly
   needs a simplex connection, the reverse direction can always just be
   ignored.

   [5] Readers unfamiliar with the TIP may read the TIP Users Guide --
   NIC 10916.











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